Oh I missed this post. My apologies.
This is attributed to me but I do not think i wrote it. In either case I think it is McDonalds the burger joint. Not McDonnell Douglas the aerospace company.
Really?? I do not even know why you wasted your time with a recent Gallup poll. The trend of opinion now is not the trend of opinion for all time. If that were the case the polls never would have changed in their favor. You are a bright individual Cato so I do not know why you wasted time with such a pointless statement.
"Every man despises his father. And in so doing becomes his grandfather." - Plato
In regards to strict scrutiny it is not applied to homosexuals. They are still not a protected class. They fail to meet 3 of the 4 criterion utilized in determining a protected class. Strict scrutiny is to be applied to marriage restrictions so long as the Obergefell ruling stands. However, if the logic utilized in Obergefell runs afoul of many other laws in place or starts leading to unjust rulings the court can and may overturn the ruling (like they did with Lochner V. New york which is the only precedence in support of Obergefell).
Furthermore the lack of data concerning the impacts of same sex marriage is in homos favor now. We will end up seeing if what they said is true and it has no impact. So long as it does not have an impact then good. If it does have a negative impact the States may use that historical data to support a ban on same sex marriage under strict scrutiny. Fingers crossed for it to have no or only a good impact!
Finally, the States are not required by law to marry people so they may opt out of the marriage game altogether, they may also amend the federal constitution to prohibit same sex marriage (which the courts can do absolutely nothing about) with 2/3rds of the states (considering 39 states had their bans overturned by court order and only 33 are need to amend the constitution I would be somewhat concerned if I were you. There are still possibilities. But hey you have public opinion polls and everyone knows public opinion polls dictate electoral polls. Just ask same sex marriage advocates who knew they were going to win in the 33 out of 34 attempts to get democratic approval.
(July 23, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Cato Wrote:(July 23, 2015 at 1:09 pm)Anima Wrote: McDonnell's is always hiring
That's a neat trick since Boeing absorbed McDonnell Douglas in the late 90s.
This is attributed to me but I do not think i wrote it. In either case I think it is McDonalds the burger joint. Not McDonnell Douglas the aerospace company.
(July 23, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Cato Wrote: The idea that one day the law will allow homosexuals to be fucked over the way they have been is a fanciful dream. One reason is the trend in public opinion. From Gallup:
Really?? I do not even know why you wasted your time with a recent Gallup poll. The trend of opinion now is not the trend of opinion for all time. If that were the case the polls never would have changed in their favor. You are a bright individual Cato so I do not know why you wasted time with such a pointless statement.
"Every man despises his father. And in so doing becomes his grandfather." - Plato
(July 23, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Cato Wrote: Another reason already discussed is the fact that it will have to pass strict scrutiny. Yet another reason is the fact that it would be a very thinly veiled attempt of pushing a religious prohibition where the prohibition by practice no longer exists. There won't be another opportunity to argue the silly procreative centric state interest bullshit again.
In regards to strict scrutiny it is not applied to homosexuals. They are still not a protected class. They fail to meet 3 of the 4 criterion utilized in determining a protected class. Strict scrutiny is to be applied to marriage restrictions so long as the Obergefell ruling stands. However, if the logic utilized in Obergefell runs afoul of many other laws in place or starts leading to unjust rulings the court can and may overturn the ruling (like they did with Lochner V. New york which is the only precedence in support of Obergefell).
Furthermore the lack of data concerning the impacts of same sex marriage is in homos favor now. We will end up seeing if what they said is true and it has no impact. So long as it does not have an impact then good. If it does have a negative impact the States may use that historical data to support a ban on same sex marriage under strict scrutiny. Fingers crossed for it to have no or only a good impact!
Finally, the States are not required by law to marry people so they may opt out of the marriage game altogether, they may also amend the federal constitution to prohibit same sex marriage (which the courts can do absolutely nothing about) with 2/3rds of the states (considering 39 states had their bans overturned by court order and only 33 are need to amend the constitution I would be somewhat concerned if I were you. There are still possibilities. But hey you have public opinion polls and everyone knows public opinion polls dictate electoral polls. Just ask same sex marriage advocates who knew they were going to win in the 33 out of 34 attempts to get democratic approval.