RE: Cash for vasectomy....
October 22, 2010 at 7:24 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2010 at 7:26 pm by Autumnlicious.)
(October 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Existentialist Wrote: Attempts to de-nazify eugenics on the basis of superficial information sources, particularly citing such dubious authorities as Wikipedia,Unsupported garbage, pulling the Nazi card again.
(October 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Existentialist Wrote: It is undeniable by anyone with an ounce of sense that eugenics became inextricably tangled with the nazis after 1933 and remains so to this day. Attempts to intellectually separate eugenics from the nazi experiment invariably arise from far-right motives.
Blah blah blah - Nazis, the Right wing is conspiring against us, wikipedia "knowledge of the masses" is great, you people focus too much on "definitions"...
(October 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Existentialist Wrote: Paying a person with drug problems £200 to be sterilised through an operation that is reversible only if the Tory spending review deems you deserving, only if you are assertive enough to demand the reversal and only if you are organised enough to attend the appropriate clinic on the appropriate day is hardly a convincing description of reversibility.
Conspiracy theory stuff as usual, blah blah druggies who are informed are too weak (see the assertive segment) to stand up for themselves.
(October 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Existentialist Wrote: On the medical side, the major personal and life-changing decision to consent to a vasectomy has been trivialised as the equivalent of root canal work. Show me a root canal filling on a healthy tooth that has a 100% success rate of reversal with full replacement of the nerve, pulp, dentine and tooth enamel, available on the NHS, and I will increase by a small fraction the respect that I have for that argument, which at the moment is zero. Let's instead have a look at the current commercial cost of vasectomy reversal. Here's one link, for example. 'Most vasectomy reversal centers charge between $7,000 and $10,000'. My taxes are supposed to pay for that, when the patient underwent the initial procedure as the result of a bribe? I don't think so.Blahblah - strawman here, and there, my money, my rules. Even though I'm part of the minority. I am going to blame the victim as well, after all, they got "sterilized" by a bribe. Natter natter natter.
Kind of like anti-abortionists are upset that some money (not even theirs often) goes to support a woman's right to choose...
(October 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Existentialist Wrote: I agree with Eilonnwy, this bribe is an attempt to control someone else's reproductive choices through coerced sterilization of people at their most vulnerable. I think it's a disgusting, repulsive, right-wing nazi con-trick, and the irony is that when its victims start settling with the NHS out of court, I'll be the one footing the bill. So don't involve me in your childlike word games. I oppose these payments.
Six occurrences of Nazi's. I love it.
I like that bit about "childish word games". Nothing more humorous seeing that come from an individual who argues against setting definitions.
Carbunkle sweep butter in oppositional gurkens.
Yaya~! I can redefine things too!