Thanks Redbeard
Kingpin: again I appreciate you're effort to explain but I can't make much sense of it. If all you're taking away from God is "love your neighbour as yourself" that is, as you said, anything but objective. That's a very useful but also vague starting point, as it depends on each person how they would carry this out. So it's not universal or objective in the least. Nor does it requires a god; all it requires is empathy. Whether God told us that rule or we just found it to be a good way of describing how morality works, we get the same result.
Kingpin: again I appreciate you're effort to explain but I can't make much sense of it. If all you're taking away from God is "love your neighbour as yourself" that is, as you said, anything but objective. That's a very useful but also vague starting point, as it depends on each person how they would carry this out. So it's not universal or objective in the least. Nor does it requires a god; all it requires is empathy. Whether God told us that rule or we just found it to be a good way of describing how morality works, we get the same result.
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