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Time
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RE: Time
(August 16, 2015 at 12:07 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 11:56 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: This is great but you're starting to sound like a New-Age nutjob, to be honest. Is this actualy science, that every possible reality exists and only our perception of the changing of these "slides" can be called time, but outside of our subjectivity, time doesn't make any sense -- might I say, to the universe itself?

You need to grasp that the reality of the universe is in no way dependent on your ability to intuit it or understand it. It doesn't care if it fits into your personal philosophy, common sense or comfort zone. It simply is. Science is determining what this reality is through cold logic and experimentation - free from human bias. And science says some things about time that are pretty hard to grasp but they have been tested and demonstrated to be true. That's what a logical person goes by. Not by his/her biases and limitations but by what has been demonstrated to be true.

I know that and I completely agree. I think you misunderstood my general attitude. I was saying that from what I gathered, from what IATIA said, time was simply a human construct and independent of the way the universe actually worked. Am I wrong in any way?

Also, please don't take this the wrong way, I might be naive in posing this question, but how exactly did scientists ever bypass their own human biases in order to come up with an objective representation of the world?

This is exactly why I frown upon those that say philosophy is dead, as if science did away with it. After all, all science does is observe and predict - and that's all very well, but what about the day it won't be able to predict anymore, or it will do so but not really, that is, it will be caught in it's own -majestic- circular reasoning. What if it already is ? These are all epistemological questions and they pertain to philosophy - it might be rash to do away with them just yet.

Sorry about the rant. Did I mention I tend to not make any sense when I don't know what I'm talking about?
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Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 8:36 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 10:03 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Time - by AFTT47 - August 15, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Time - by AFTT47 - August 15, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Time - by vorlon13 - August 15, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: Time - by vorlon13 - August 15, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:16 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:39 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:56 pm
RE: Time - by AFTT47 - August 16, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: Time - by AFTT47 - August 16, 2015 at 12:33 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:39 am
RE: Time - by AFTT47 - August 16, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 15, 2015 at 11:41 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: Time - by AFTT47 - August 15, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 12:05 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 12:27 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Time - by Alex K - August 16, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 1:28 am
RE: Time - by Paraselene - August 16, 2015 at 1:33 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 1:39 am
RE: Time - by Paraselene - August 16, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: Time - by Alex K - August 16, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: Time - by Pyrrho - August 16, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Time - by robvalue - August 16, 2015 at 5:05 am
RE: Time - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 16, 2015 at 6:28 am
RE: Time - by downbeatplumb - August 16, 2015 at 8:12 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Time - by downbeatplumb - August 16, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Time - by Alex K - August 16, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Time - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: Time - by IATIA - August 16, 2015 at 10:47 am

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