Ok. Let us go over the scenarios and bring time into it.
One photon in a void. It is moving at the speed of light because the laws of physics dictate it. We just cannot measure it in this environment.
Two photons side by side and again, they must be moving at the speed of light, but again, no way to measure it.
Effectively, there is no time in the first two scenarios because the photons will travel forever with nothing to dissipate them and they do not age. Nothing is changing. No matter how long they travel or how far they travel, they will always seem to be stationary and unchanged in the center of the void.
Now that we have thrown you into the void, we have time. We have measurable motion, though we still cannot say absolutely whether you are moving or they are moving. All the math, Newton, Einstein, QM, whatever, will say the same thing regardless of which is moving. All we can state as a fact, is that the distance is increasing.
Motion and change are interchangeable in this dialog. Without either, we cannot have time as there is nothing to measure, so existence does not equate to time. Now time did not magically come about just because you were thrown into the mix, but the ability to observe and measure change did.
Make sense to this point?
One photon in a void. It is moving at the speed of light because the laws of physics dictate it. We just cannot measure it in this environment.
Two photons side by side and again, they must be moving at the speed of light, but again, no way to measure it.
Effectively, there is no time in the first two scenarios because the photons will travel forever with nothing to dissipate them and they do not age. Nothing is changing. No matter how long they travel or how far they travel, they will always seem to be stationary and unchanged in the center of the void.
Now that we have thrown you into the void, we have time. We have measurable motion, though we still cannot say absolutely whether you are moving or they are moving. All the math, Newton, Einstein, QM, whatever, will say the same thing regardless of which is moving. All we can state as a fact, is that the distance is increasing.
Motion and change are interchangeable in this dialog. Without either, we cannot have time as there is nothing to measure, so existence does not equate to time. Now time did not magically come about just because you were thrown into the mix, but the ability to observe and measure change did.
Make sense to this point?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
