Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 10, 2025, 7:50 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Defining "Atheism"
#24
RE: Defining "Atheism"
(October 30, 2010 at 12:34 pm)Existentialist Wrote: It is, however, a problem that some definitions of atheism don't mention belief, and other definitions do. That is what makes me think that belief is an expendable component of the concept of atheism. Belief and non-belief are separate words from denial and non-denial.

I think that quote clarifies your position, unless I misunderstand. I understand the point you are attempting to make. I do disagree, however.

Amoral is not a denial of morality, it is a lack of morality.

Asexual is not a denial of sexuality, it is a lack of sexuality.

Atheism is not a denial of theism, it is a lack of theism.

Of course, the denial of theism is an atheistic position, but it is still atheism without that denial. That being the case, the only thing required to be defined as 'atheism' is a lack of belief in gods. The belief that there are no gods is not required to fit the definition of atheism.

That's why people use qualifiers to define their atheism more specifically. Denial of theism would require the qualifier 'strong' or possibly 'gnostic'. Without those qualifiers, the only thing the word atheism tells us is that the person does not believe in gods, not whether that person believes there are none.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Defining "Atheism" - by Strongappleby - October 29, 2010 at 9:28 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 9:30 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - October 29, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 9:39 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Zen Badger - October 30, 2010 at 8:40 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Strongappleby - October 30, 2010 at 10:49 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 11:40 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - October 29, 2010 at 9:43 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Skipper - October 29, 2010 at 9:56 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 29, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - October 29, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 11:02 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Shinylight - October 30, 2010 at 11:16 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Shinylight - October 30, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 11:34 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Shinylight - October 30, 2010 at 11:43 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by downbeatplumb - October 30, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - October 30, 2010 at 11:39 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 11:50 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - October 30, 2010 at 12:04 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 12:34 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - October 30, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 3:12 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - October 30, 2010 at 3:20 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Strongappleby - October 30, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Welsh cake - October 30, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by The Omnissiunt One - October 30, 2010 at 2:54 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 30, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by The Omnissiunt One - October 31, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - October 31, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - October 31, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ervin - November 1, 2010 at 7:17 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by LastPoet - November 1, 2010 at 7:45 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ervin - November 1, 2010 at 7:59 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by LastPoet - November 1, 2010 at 9:19 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Skipper - November 1, 2010 at 9:38 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 1, 2010 at 8:05 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul Els - November 1, 2010 at 8:18 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ervin - November 1, 2010 at 10:26 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - November 1, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - November 1, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - November 1, 2010 at 3:26 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - November 1, 2010 at 3:37 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Skipper - November 1, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 1, 2010 at 1:46 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ervin - November 1, 2010 at 10:45 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ace Otana - November 2, 2010 at 10:56 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 5, 2010 at 8:10 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 1, 2010 at 3:39 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by LastPoet - November 1, 2010 at 8:26 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - November 2, 2010 at 3:26 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by -KT - November 1, 2010 at 8:42 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Welsh cake - November 2, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Existentialist - November 3, 2010 at 3:40 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Rhizomorph13 - November 3, 2010 at 1:08 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by marco_73 - November 11, 2010 at 10:33 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Lethe - November 11, 2010 at 12:04 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ryft - November 19, 2010 at 7:02 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ryft - November 17, 2010 at 5:47 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Welsh cake - November 17, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ryft - November 18, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Lethe - November 18, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Welsh cake - November 18, 2010 at 4:21 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 18, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Lethe - November 18, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by theVOID - November 18, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 19, 2010 at 2:33 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2010 at 2:45 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Ryft - November 20, 2010 at 2:45 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by theVOID - November 20, 2010 at 10:43 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - November 19, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Rhizomorph13 - November 19, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 19, 2010 at 3:21 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Paul the Human - November 19, 2010 at 3:26 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 19, 2010 at 9:31 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Welsh cake - November 19, 2010 at 3:49 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 20, 2010 at 5:24 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 20, 2010 at 11:58 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 21, 2010 at 6:34 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 21, 2010 at 8:18 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by theVOID - November 21, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by fr0d0 - November 21, 2010 at 9:02 am
RE: Defining "Atheism" - by Tiberius - November 21, 2010 at 9:21 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Atheism VS Christian Atheism? IanHulett 80 32135 June 13, 2017 at 11:09 am
Last Post: vorlon13
  On Defining Atheism: A Sentence Napoléon 45 10829 August 24, 2015 at 8:25 am
Last Post: Ben Davis
  On Defining Atheism: An Essay Manalive 46 12171 August 22, 2015 at 6:22 am
Last Post: Little lunch
  Atheism, Scientific Atheism and Antitheism tantric 33 14935 January 18, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Last Post: helyott
  Strong/Gnostic Atheism and Weak/Agnostic Atheism Dystopia 26 13637 August 30, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Last Post: Dawsonite
  A question about defining 'Atheist' orangebox21 12 4364 July 10, 2014 at 6:08 pm
Last Post: Jenny A
  Debate share, young earth? atheism coverup? atheism gain? xr34p3rx 13 11534 March 16, 2014 at 11:30 am
Last Post: fr0d0
  A different definition of atheism. Atheism isn't simply lack of belief in god/s fr0d0 14 13004 August 1, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Concisely defining three types of atheism. Edwardo Piet 6 3191 January 16, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Last Post: GANIMEDE
  "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF? leo-rcc 69 42747 February 2, 2010 at 3:29 am
Last Post: tackattack



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)