(August 25, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, I don't think that it planted those seeds at all. They already believe themselves to be fallen creatures. Thats a full blown crop, currently being harvested. It's not that I don't think events in the real world have impact, I just think that we mis-attribute -constantly-. Disgraced leaders don't seem to be able to disgrace their platforms quiet as competently as we might hope. If a person, for example, falls away from islam because of Hamza....I just think (on top of the above) it's a toss up that they'll fall right back in as soon as they find some other talking head to reaffirm what they clearly wish to believe, because what Hamza is or isn't, does or doesn't do, isn't a very good reason to take up or lay down a faith (nor does it seem to be all that effective), it has absolutely -no- bearing on the truth of islam, or the question of allah, and the mechanisms for incorporating that failure into the narrative are already in place and already shown to be very, very effective.
Were you ever a believer?
The fact that some priests abuse kids has no bearing on the truth of Catholocism either, and yet it was a thing that caused some people to start to question the church. Once you put any kind of break in the facade of religion, the cracks can grow. A person questions the AUTHORITY of what they are being told. Once you question authority....it can lead anywhere.
I agree it does not change MOST people, but it does change some people, and that totally matters.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
