(August 26, 2015 at 6:40 pm)Napoléon Wrote:Cool, you can read my thoughts. Responsible gun ownership is not a deflection, that's who I am.(August 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: The idea of banning all guns will never work so lets consider something at least constructive.
Why? Is it something to do with the fact that you have 5% of the world's population but 50% of all the guns? Is it your country's blatant obsession with guns?
What exactly is the reason you think an outright ban wouldn't work? It works in many other civilised countries across the globe. I'd have that with all the resources that America has, it would be quite doable.
Quote:I didn't use the "guns don't kill people" argument. I didn't try to deflect. I didn't express any opposition to better gun legislation. Thanks for insinuating that I did.
(August 26, 2015 at 2:56 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: My guns (and there are many) have never caused a human gun death or human gun injury. Not even a human gun close call.
Mmmk.
Why would you bring this up if not to deflect or otherwise insinuate there isn't a problem.
Like I said, people like to bring up "oh I'm a responsible gun owner". Well no shit, responsible gun owners aren't the problem and responsible gun owners aren't the reason we are even having this argument.
It's a nothing statement besides a distraction from what the actual point is.
Quote:So, are either of you willing to discuss solutions other than ban them all?
I'm sure Brian will indulge you, personally I just wanted to express my agreement with his one point. You say you're willing to discuss solutions but I'm yet to see you actually come up with any. Apparently getting rid of guns completely is unrealistic but you haven't mentioned why.
We've got a ban on drugs, how's that working for us? Oh, wait, drugs don't kill or effect crime. We tried to ban alcohol, how well did that work for us? What's the irresponsible alcohol related death tole?
I gave many potential solutions. Here they are again: [Waiting period extension, fine. Background check strengthened, fine. No person to person sales (either individual or at gun shows) only sales through registered dealers, fine. Limiting types of guns sold, fine. Mandatory registration and a check system, fine. Re-evaluation of ownership qualification periodically, fine.] It seems that you only see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.