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Death Penalty
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RE: Death Penalty
(August 30, 2015 at 5:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm)Chad32 Wrote: What percentage of batshit crazy people in the world do you find acceptable? It's a loaded question. I'd rather not have anything less than perfection, but I don't want to throw out a system because occasionally something bad happens.

First off, is isn't in any way a loaded question.  You intimated earlier that as long as the number of wrongfully executed people continues to decrease, you're OK with it.

I readily grant that people killed by the State is more often in accord with the law than not.  But so what?  As long as ANY innocent people are executed, the system is horribly, horribly flawed, and MUST be thrown out.  The 'occasionally something bad happens' isn't like getting shortchanged at the grocer's or having your car recalled, it is the taking of a human life.

But it's actually very easy to 'not have anything less than perfection'.  Simply stop executing people.  If you don't execute anyone, you'll never execute an innocent person.  A lot of countries have done this, and it seems to work.

Boru

Addendum:  What Snake said.  If you lock someone up unjustly, you can make amends.  You can apologize, you can give them back their freedom, you can pay them large sums of money.  How do you make amends for killing someone you shouldn't have?

If you never jail anyone, you'll never jail an innocent person. But we must do something to people who break the law, and sometimes we get it wrong. If someone spends the rest of their life in jail, and we find out they were innocent, but they're too old to do anything with it anymore, how is that better than killing them? You can give them money, but you can't give them time.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 2:30 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Silver - August 30, 2015 at 2:32 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 30, 2015 at 2:43 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 5:03 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Lucanus - August 30, 2015 at 5:13 am
RE: Death Penalty - by jesus_wept - August 30, 2015 at 5:19 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 2:44 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ignoramus - August 30, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Aoi Magi - August 30, 2015 at 9:18 am
RE: Death Penalty - by robvalue - August 30, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: Death Penalty - by downbeatplumb - August 30, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Alex K - August 30, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 30, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Longhorn - August 30, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by downbeatplumb - August 30, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 30, 2015 at 8:22 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 10:38 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Aroura - August 30, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 30, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 31, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - August 30, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - August 30, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 11:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Regina - August 30, 2015 at 11:56 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 31, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 31, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 31, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 31, 2015 at 6:33 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 31, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by GenericAthiest - August 31, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - September 1, 2015 at 2:57 pm

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