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Death Penalty
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RE: Death Penalty
(August 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Purposefully killing an innocent person is murder. Accidentally killing someone is manslaughter. We don't like Yahweh killing innocent people because the most common reason he kills people is "they're not worshiping me enough". Killing someone you don't know is innocent is bad, but it doesn't make you evil.

When you accommodate a system that you know -- that you know -- will occasionally have a false positive, saying "oh well, that's the price we pay" is wrong. It's not the price we pay. It's the price that sorry sonofabitch pays. But you know what? No man is an island. If a clod of the continent is washed off, Europe is lessened.

An abrogation of one man's rights is very clearly an abrogation of all our rights, because what may be done to one man legitimately in the name of justice, imperfect as it is, can be done to all of us.

(August 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If I was the one on death row, about to be killed for a crime I didn't commit, I'd be sad that I was killed unfairly, and worried about what the real killer is going to do. I wouldn't suddenly change my stance on the death penalty itsself.

Really? You'd still feel that the death penalty was apt? You wouldn't feel that it was wrongly applied in your case?

You'd be happy to sacrifice your life to an ideal system of justice that could not be attained, but still demanded sacrificial victims -- even yourself?

Wow. That is ideology run amok.

(August 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote: That quote from a bishop loses a bit of its meaning when the guy's ideas come from a book where killing people is the most common punishment for anyone who steps out of line.

I wasn't addressing CL's quote at all. I was asking you to put yourself in the chair and seeing how you might rationalize your own wrongful killing. You've done something of a job, not that I pretend to understand it.

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Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 2:30 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Silver - August 30, 2015 at 2:32 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 30, 2015 at 2:43 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 5:03 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Lucanus - August 30, 2015 at 5:13 am
RE: Death Penalty - by jesus_wept - August 30, 2015 at 5:19 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 2:44 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ignoramus - August 30, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Aoi Magi - August 30, 2015 at 9:18 am
RE: Death Penalty - by robvalue - August 30, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: Death Penalty - by downbeatplumb - August 30, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Alex K - August 30, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - August 30, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Longhorn - August 30, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by downbeatplumb - August 30, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - August 30, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 30, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 30, 2015 at 8:22 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 10:38 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Aroura - August 30, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 30, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 31, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by bennyboy - August 30, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 30, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - August 30, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - August 30, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 30, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 30, 2015 at 11:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 30, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Regina - August 30, 2015 at 11:56 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 31, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: Death Penalty - by AFTT47 - August 31, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 31, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - August 31, 2015 at 6:33 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Catholic_Lady - August 31, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ravenshire - August 31, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by GenericAthiest - August 31, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Pyrrho - September 1, 2015 at 2:57 pm

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