@ Void- Oh btw you weren't really late I was just early and as apparent am happy to entertain many more questios, I'm just bored at work and tired of having this saved as a draft.
2. If ants had the ability to reason would that they might perceive getting stepped on or their homes desroyed as the act of a huge angry God? Emotion is a human thing and the only thing we have to remotely compare to the described nature of God, however dimunitive, is the unconditional Love of a Parent.
Nothing, as it would have already be done. Meaning specifically that I'm far more binary and black and white oriented than my belief about who God could be, and I would have just created robots, or mindless animals, or anything better than free will. Free will(perceived or otherwise) is a gift I don't think I would have allowed.
(November 5, 2010 at 4:58 am)Darwinian Wrote: Nicely done tack1. Only if you ignore parts of the Bile does it teach intolerance and hatred. A whole Bible approach with reason, intuition (for you secularists) and intent leads me to the conclusion that as a whole, the Bible teaches unity through a oneness of the Spirit, Love and Eternal Life as it's key proponents.
Quote:# If God is peace and love and infinite mercy, why is the Bible so violent and intollerent?
People are violent and intolerant. That's not saying God isn't or can't get angry. If someone tried in every way to convince people you don't exist you'd be justifiably angry as well. Why are Christians intolerant? well People are usually intolerant because they like to be right and a lot of Christians feel they have moral high ground by default. That's not a Biblical teaching, we are all sinner, atheist, theist and sinner and as a whole, Jesus teaches Unity not segregation.
Just a few points about the above. You say that it is people who are violent and imply it's not the Bible. But surely it is the Bible that teaches this violence and intolerance. When the Bible teaches that on discovering your new bride is not a virgin she should be stoned to death, surely this is a classic case of the Bible being violent and intolerant?
Also, you imply that God can get angry. How can this be true of an omniscient entity who knows all future events before they happen? And if he does get angry because he's fed up with people denying his existence then surely it would be logical to come and say hello, or at the very least not set the Cosmos up in such a way that everything points to him not existing.
2. If ants had the ability to reason would that they might perceive getting stepped on or their homes desroyed as the act of a huge angry God? Emotion is a human thing and the only thing we have to remotely compare to the described nature of God, however dimunitive, is the unconditional Love of a Parent.
(November 5, 2010 at 5:39 am)LastPoet Wrote: A question for Tack: If you were god, what would you do?
Nothing, as it would have already be done. Meaning specifically that I'm far more binary and black and white oriented than my belief about who God could be, and I would have just created robots, or mindless animals, or anything better than free will. Free will(perceived or otherwise) is a gift I don't think I would have allowed.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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