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Does religion corrupt morality?
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RE: Does religion corrupt morality?
(September 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
(September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I think I'll have to disagree with you there.  Nobody is 100% reasonable about everything all the time


That is completely irrelevant.  Religion makes people MORE FUCKING IRRATIONAL.  People are fucking irrational enough without any extra bullshit prompting.  But when they fucking get that bullshit prompting from religion, then they are fucking much worse.


(September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: , and you can have a fantastically moral, pleasant, intelligent, and progressive person who simply believes in a god.


They are always irrational and always worse than they could be without religious nonsense.  For the lengthy explanation, see the essay by William Kingdon Clifford at:

http://ajburger.homestead.com/files/book.htm


(September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:  I don't find anything inherently 'bad' about someone holding a theistic belief at all, it all depends on the attendant beliefs/actions/statements.  I mean shit, to bring up kind of the negative-Godwin example, was MLK Jr. an 'unreasonable' person, because he was religious?  I'm not a fan of any sort of absolutist terms, and saying that 'you can't be a reasonable person if you're religious' seems a bit too far reaching for me.


So you believe that belief in god is reasonable?  Please explain that to everyone.  Please start a new thread on that so everyone will see it.

If you don't do that, everyone seeing this thread will know you are totally full of shit and you fucking know that religious belief is unreasonable and are just writing nonsense now.  Put up, or shut the fuck up.
Wow, was not expecting something that vitriolic or mean.  No, I never stated that I think a belief in god is reasonable. And I see enough strawmanning from theists, I'd rather not see it from someone who happens to hold the same position on the god claim as I do.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:48 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by dyresand - September 5, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 9:19 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 6, 2015 at 1:14 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 5, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Longhorn - September 4, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 4, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by ignoramus - September 4, 2015 at 2:34 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2015 at 8:45 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 3, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Cecelia - September 3, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 4, 2015 at 12:27 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 4, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by emjay - September 4, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by drfuzzy - September 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by abaris - September 4, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 4, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 4, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 4, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 4:07 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Longhorn - September 5, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by drfuzzy - September 4, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 4, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 5, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 5, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 6, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 6, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2015 at 7:20 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 6, 2015 at 7:21 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2015 at 7:27 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 7, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Spooky - September 5, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by ScepticOrganism - September 5, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 5, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Mental Outlaw - September 7, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 7, 2015 at 2:54 am

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