(September 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I think I'll have to disagree with you there. Nobody is 100% reasonable about everything all the time
That is completely irrelevant. Religion makes people MORE FUCKING IRRATIONAL. People are fucking irrational enough without any extra bullshit prompting. But when they fucking get that bullshit prompting from religion, then they are fucking much worse.
(September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: , and you can have a fantastically moral, pleasant, intelligent, and progressive person who simply believes in a god.
They are always irrational and always worse than they could be without religious nonsense. For the lengthy explanation, see the essay by William Kingdon Clifford at:
http://ajburger.homestead.com/files/book.htm
(September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I don't find anything inherently 'bad' about someone holding a theistic belief at all, it all depends on the attendant beliefs/actions/statements. I mean shit, to bring up kind of the negative-Godwin example, was MLK Jr. an 'unreasonable' person, because he was religious? I'm not a fan of any sort of absolutist terms, and saying that 'you can't be a reasonable person if you're religious' seems a bit too far reaching for me.
So you believe that belief in god is reasonable? Please explain that to everyone. Please start a new thread on that so everyone will see it.
If you don't do that, everyone seeing this thread will know you are totally full of shit and you fucking know that religious belief is unreasonable and are just writing nonsense now. Put up, or shut the fuck up.
Sheesh, someone's angry tonight. Chill out, dude. Not everyone is always going to agree with you, and that's ok.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
