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Does religion corrupt morality?
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RE: Does religion corrupt morality?
(September 3, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:
(September 3, 2015 at 8:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'd be interested to know what you mean when you say that you became a better person when you became an atheist.  That statement implies that there is something inherently 'better' about being an atheist.  If two people hold the precisely same moral views, but just disagree on whether a god exists, does that make the atheist 'better' than the believer?


This brings up the question of how your worldview and view of self affects your moral standing.  If a person does an act generally considered to be 'good' because they accept an objective imperative or because in their mind it is linked to an afterlife jackpot or because it jives with their subjective view of what the relationship requires or just because of their sentiment for the person .. is the act morally equivalent in all cases?

Well that's kinda my point.  Someone can come to the right (highly subjective meaning of the word 'right') conclusion for the wrong reasons.  But just because their reasoning is shitty on a single topic doesn't mean that they are 'unreasonable' as a descriptor of their character or person.  Additionally, someone can believe in a god and /still/ use humanism and empathy as a reasoning for certain positions.  

If we were to take a hypothetical ceteris paribus case of , person A has positions XYZ, and person B has pisitions XYZ, they are totally identical, but person A believes X because god told them to, and person B believes X because of a reasoned philosophy, then of course I'd say person B 'preferable', but I would never say person A is 'immoral'.


(hopefully everyone can follow my stumbling analogy)
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:48 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by dyresand - September 5, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 9:19 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 3, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Lemonvariable72 - September 6, 2015 at 1:14 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 5, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Longhorn - September 4, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 4, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 3, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by ignoramus - September 4, 2015 at 2:34 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Anomalocaris - September 4, 2015 at 8:45 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 3, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Cecelia - September 3, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Catholic_Lady - September 3, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 3, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by FatAndFaithless - September 4, 2015 at 12:27 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 4, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Ben Davis - September 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by emjay - September 4, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by drfuzzy - September 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 4, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by abaris - September 4, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 4, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 4, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 4, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 4:07 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Longhorn - September 5, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by drfuzzy - September 4, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 4, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 5, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 5, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 6, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 6, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2015 at 7:20 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Napoléon - September 6, 2015 at 7:21 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2015 at 7:27 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 7, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Spooky - September 5, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by ScepticOrganism - September 5, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Whateverist - September 5, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Mental Outlaw - September 7, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: Does religion corrupt morality? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 7, 2015 at 2:54 am

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