RE: Pat Robertson: non-religious children should be beaten
September 7, 2015 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2015 at 10:45 am by TheRocketSurgeon.
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(September 7, 2015 at 3:14 am)robvalue Wrote: This guy is admitting that his shit is so stupid that it can't even fool children, and they need to be bashed into pretending to believe it. God needs thugs. Of course he's too stupid to realize what message he's really sending here.
My church definitely believed in the "beat the child into submission" rule, and I was frequently spanked for failure to comply with authority figures in my church. I wanted reasons for everything, and they always had an issue with my insistence on this point, even though I was a Christian, growing up; they simply could not believe that a child was intelligent enough to see through the "because I say so" BS from adults. In one instance, I was beaten right in the church hallway because I said "hell" after learning it was a place, and not a curse word!
This kind of fundamentalist is quite open about the concept of breaking a child's will through violence. To the fundamentalist, submission is a critical element of belief, and when you already accept the notion that it is okay to indoctrinate a child into your belief system, it's not a huge step to the next level, using disciplinary violence to punish willful defiance of authority figures, including but not limited to the parents.
We are already aware of Christian books, such as To Train Up a Child by Michael Pearl of the "No Greater Joy" Ministry that have directly led to the deaths of children through such violence. The Christians even have "boot camps" that openly advocate for "breaking the child's will".
Sadly, it seems to be just one more area in which (fundamentalist, especially) Christian doctrines are at odds with our increasing knowledge of human nature through science.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
