RE: Omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence... etc.
September 10, 2015 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2015 at 2:37 pm by Napoléon.)
(September 10, 2015 at 2:17 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: How is that not omnipotence? If god can do anything, how is that not omnipotence?
I guess you're right. But like all things in the bible it's somewhat open to interpretation. It's quite possible to say this phrase is simply a way of saying "if you have god on your side you can achieve things". A bit like, "believe in yourself". Or you can take it as a literal claim that god can do anything.
This is pretty much why I hate talking about bible verses and literature at all. Although I'm more inclined to take literally than metaphorically.
Meh.
Quote:Is it just the word "omnipotence" that you are wanting to find in the Bible, or its meaning? What does your favorite dictionary tell you that "omnipotence" means?
The definition Min posted is pretty much it. "Unlimited/infinite power". But I still don't think anything he posted necessarily claims such. Like I said, the act of creating the universe doesn't automatically mean infinite power. Not in my opinion. The ones you posted seemed more clear cut though.
I don't know if I'm phrasing myself poorly or I just don't know what it is I'm asking myself, all I know is I found it quite weird to hear a Jew claim the Abrahamic god wasn't omni-inserthere. The strange thing is that from a rational viewpoint it seems a lot more sensible to me to argue for a god that isn't all powerful, especially if you can justify it with bible speak. It made me wonder why more of the religious don't take this stance.
I guess it's similar to me in how the Catholic church has changed its stance previously on things that are demonstrably ridiculous and toned down their rhetoric on certain topics. I see this as a similar thing, but most religious still claim like god is all that and a bag of chips, when he doesn't have to be.
