(September 6, 2008 at 9:10 pm)Pete Wrote: God also gave us free will so we have the choice not to worship him. Did your parents give you choice of whether or not to like them/love them? In fact they couldn't make you like them/love them. But most people love their parents.Ok, fair enough. So why does such a God demand we worship him or we go to Hell? How is that a choice? It is a forced outcome. Nobody wants to go to Hell, so everyone would worship him, except those brave enough to think "wait a minute..." (i.e. us)
(September 6, 2008 at 9:10 pm)Pete Wrote: Actually an atheist is a person who rejects what theists accept as evidence of the existance of God.STOP *holds up red flag*
No redefining atheism on these forums.
Quote:Do you know much about why so many scientists believe in God? Have you looked into it at all or read anything about it? There is a question that physicists are struggeling with now regarding the fine tuning of the constants of nature. Are you familiar with it?The so-called "fine tuning" isn't something that scientists are struggling over at all, for the simple reason that there is no evidence that fine tuning exists. Victor Stenger put it this way:
"Fine-tuning, Stenger argues, comes with caveats. The fact that a universe with different physical constants might be inhospitable to life as we know it does not necessarily mean that it is inhospitable to any form of life. Currently, there is no way of determining if a universe allows for life or not. Further, most of this universe, especially the interstellar vacuum, appears to be devoid of life; other physical constants may exist that allow a much greater density of life than in this universe." (Wikipedia)
So until someone can prove that you can't change a universal constant and create a hospitable universe the argument is as useless as the I.D argument.
