Omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence... etc.

[JuliaL]

Like I said, the act of creating the universe doesn't automatically mean infinite power.

Really?

What's in second place?

Let's grant for discussion the existence of the God described in the bibles and apologized for ever after...
He must exist, at least with respect to causation, outside our universe.
We know nothing about His powers in this alternate space.
For all we know He is far from omnipotent there.  In fact He could well be sulking over the poor marks He received in His semester universe creation assignment.
It would explain a lot.

Yeah, but if you're making shit up, why not go for gold?  All you have to do is say, "Yeah, the paradoxes don't make sense.  But god is so omni-powerful that he's stronger even than paradox."  See, easy.

I guess I didn't get across where I'm coming from in my previous post. It's not that they go for gold that perplexes me. It's that actually, the books don't explicitly outline their god's omnipotence. They certainly give a strong hint at it, but like the Jewish guy said (I'll try and find the vid), it's not strictly something that the religious need to defend. Which is what confuses me, because an awful lot of religious people defend the omni bullshit to the hilt like it is actually scripture.

To me, saying your god created the universe, as powerful as that implies he is, it doesn't automatically mean he's omnipotent, like Min is trying to suggest. Same with any other verses that I've seen, they don't outright say god can do anything as and when he pleases. But I'm not a bible basher which is why I'm kinda cross-referencing that.

Societal cohesion is much more important to successful=persistent societies than is doctrinal correspondence with reality.
Persons come along for the ride in this context.  Going with the flow, agreeing with the premises of paradox yet denying their consequents bonds populations into cultures in a symbiosis where both the individuals and the cultures prosper.

It actually works better if the espoused concept is arbitrary and untrue.  
People love defending lost causes.  Think Cubs fans.
How unique can you claim your sect is if just anybody can come up with the same answers?