(September 11, 2015 at 2:12 am)Thena323 Wrote:(September 11, 2015 at 12:51 am)Lek Wrote: I've never heard of any respected individual seriously claiming that they encountered Santa or the Easter bunny, but large numbers of respected people, with no mental illnesses, have seriously testified to having supernatural experiences and encounters with God. Do these testimonies open you up in any to the possibility of the supernatural and/or life after death? Or must you personally verify and test their claims by natural means?
No, the only reactions testimonies of supernatural encounters get from me are a raised eyebrow or a polite nod. I believe that people making these sort of claims are confused or mistaken. Also....people lie sometimes.
I wouldn't bother trying to personally verify and test their claims by the standards of reality.
You're right people do lie about some things sometimes, mainly to boost their own self, at least in their eyes. However I'm not one of those, I see such things as disingenuous and self defeating in the end. I know that God exist, I have personally experienced Him through answered prayer, and seeing things happening within the church I belonged to before leaving to serve at another church. I do not make things up, there's no use in such things this is also self defeating in the end. As for the natural and supernatural how can you compare the two, one is testable some of the time and the other is revealed when God sees it's appropriate. There's only one way to test life after death, to die and then that person can't tell you what he/she found out, because death is either permanent or God's not going to allow it. I'm curious as to what you want to discover through this thread? Pretty soon I'm going to be designing and building a couple of pieces of furniture, this will take up a great deal of time and will demand my time to get them done on time. So, soon I want be visiting here often, I'm trying to end my participation in most threads, hoping to find out what you want to discover through this thread.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.