(September 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Godschild Wrote:GC, your post is mixed in with my quote. I only point this out to avoid confusion.Thena323 Wrote:I wasn't attempting to discover anything when I composed this thread. I was challenging the idea that atheists
lack belief as a matter of rebellion, willfulness, anger etc. I was suggesting that some atheists would very much like to believe that the loved ones they've lost could somehow continue after death, and carry on somewhere they are safe and loved.
So you do not believe that some atheist are rebellious and/or angry ect., they all have reasonable reasons for not believing. I'm not speaking of reasonable to them specifically, but reasonable in general.
I'm sure that many non-believes would hope for an eternal life of bliss for their loved ones, what I find hard to believe especially after being here for over 5 years that anyone believing they are an atheist would hope for something like an after life of any kind, doesn't seem to fit into their logical thinking. As for non-believers in this case I'm referring to those who actually do not profess to be an atheist, people who go through life without concern for God or atheism.
I agree that is part of what separates myself from atheist, however I believe (as I have identified them above) many non-believers want something like an after life if for nothing more than to help them cope with death. They may at least fain the belief in an after life, such as ghosts, spirits and ect. that might be conjured up or some other such belief. Not trying to derail this thread but, it's the only thing that comes to mind at the moment, some atheist believe through hope in dark matter and dark energy, there is no evidence for these things period, neither have be observed even in a lab. They have become a necessity to hold the big bang theory together. Like I said it's I only presented this as an example and want argue this point guys, I don't want to derail this thread.
Thank you, one will be changing the design of a demilune table to fit what I desire, the other will be a time consuming newish (nothing new under the sun) design for a large media center cabinet, having modern function with an older world appearance, I look forward to the challenge. I like to use the older type designs for modern functions.
GC
I think you have hope confused with wishful thinking but, you are correct. I don't hope for an afterlife, since I don't believe there is a possibility of one existing. I don't anticipate that there might be one. I simply wished it was
possible.
Don't worry about derailing my thread. These things go off in different directions all the time.
Btw, the irony of you being a carpenter is not lost on me. Ha!
