Unintelligent Desgin

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@All, general thoughts:

If a personal relationship with God just involves talking at him, getting nothing in return and just assuming he hears you, then I can have a personal relationship with puff the magic dragon or my table for that matter. It sounds just like talking to yourself.

There's nothing wrong with talking to yourself, however. I do it a lot. I talk out loud to myself, sometimes for comfort, and sometimes so I hear the words as it helps me think more objectively. I don't need to assume anyone else is involved to do this though.

Also, no one is generally "discounting" a supernatural creator, there is no need to discount anything. That's not how science works. We don't discount the whole of reality coming out of a magical bath, or being the manifestation of a thought process in another being's head. We don't need to say "I have discounted those things". We simply don't spend any time considering things until there is positive evidence that they are worth considering. We only have a limited amount of time in our lives, so to try and pursue every crazy notion anyone has would waste literally all our time. And considering "God" is always defined to be carefully out of the reach of science, we literally cannot investigate it. It's a pointless placeholder for a hole in knowledge which has no explanatory power.

All this is an argument from ignorance, and still only gets you to a deistic God. And it only gets you there because you've picked "magical God" out from the infinity of unfalisiable explain actions; why have you done this? Because you want it to be true. You don't want any of the others to be true. Yet there is no more evidence for a god than for the magic bath. Reality doesn't care what you want to be true, nor does it become more likely because someone indoctrinated you with a bunch of stories.

All your work is ahead of you to try and in any way correlate this arbitrarily picked deistic god with a story book, as well.

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