(September 21, 2015 at 3:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know several scientist who are devoted Christians, I myself like science and find much of it quite interesting. What I and these I mentioned do not believe in is evolution, one branch of many sciences. Evolution has no proofs none and so we disagree with it, isn't that pat of science questioning things until they become fact. You see I see you as a hypocrite, you accept things as fact that aren't, you need to look at yourself carefully before condemning others.
GC
This is a lie. My own fiancee is a Christian (Methodist), completely devout and one of the only Christians I know who knows the Bible as well as I do. Yet she is an evolutionary biologist, specifically one who works in the field of genetics.
You have been misled by the Discovery Institute about what scientists who are Christian really think about evolution. I don't say "misled" lightly; the Discovery Institute goes out of their way to misrepresent what scientists say, and has produced a "list" of scientists who reject evolution that in fact contains only one. When the guy who made the following video tracked down the scientists listed by the DI, on their list, the replies he gets back shows that no one in biology doubts evolution, and the CI was lying by placing them on the list.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.