(September 21, 2015 at 9:24 pm)Spooky Wrote:(September 21, 2015 at 8:57 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: No, I think RAKD has a good point, here. It's important to consider both word usage and context. Even though many translations of the Bible use the word "rape" for the later verses (28-29), others do not. Young's Literal uses "caught":
Caught, discovered, observed, seen, noted, discerned, etc...
Doesn't honestly matter to me what word is used, I don't see how it would change the meaning. The great misogynist in the sky doesn't care unless there's a third party. Again going back to the word of a man against that of property. I take issue with whatever translation you care use.
Defense of this verse and whatever moral or parabolic teachings it's trying to impart is simply idiotic, like most of the bible.
Agreed. That's why I said it's not a basis for a modern moral code. Modern moral codes have the bizarre notion that women are people.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
