A Serious Proposal

[Jenny A]

But if you really need a list from me to tell you how to clean this place up, start with:

Foul language
Disrespecting of ANYONE's faith or non-faith
Blasphemous memes
Personal attacks
Vulgar avatars (your own, for example)

You know...the kind of stuff that would get you fired if you said or did any of it at work.

Newsflash, this isn't work. This forum has very few rules, and that is the beauty of it.

And I have no problem with disrespecting anyone's ideas. I respect your right to have a set of beliefs. The beliefs themselves are not something to be respected. I respect your right to express your ideas not not necessarily the ideas themselves. That depends on the quality of the ideas.

Complaints about blasphemy are really nothing more than attempts to shelter ideas for criticism or to protect the feeling of people who hold those ideas. No ideas deserve such protection.

Oh, and you could start banning some people who are the worst offenders...like Minimalist and dyresand, for example.

NONE of that will happen, of course.

No, absent violation of the rules, we don't ban anyone.

Which is why I propose a second forum where atheists like Nestor and others can engage in higher level discussion with theists without all the chatter.

Higher level? You mean where one person: posts a long quote from someone else; ignores any real criticism of it except to reiterate the OP or to say he's already refuted that elsewhere (usually without a link); and then declares victory?