RE: Defining "Atheism"
November 19, 2010 at 7:02 am
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2010 at 7:02 am by Ryft.)
(November 18, 2010 at 4:21 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Whenever someone responds ... with a "I don't know," it tells you nothing about their beliefs.
Precisely. It tells you about their knowledge; specifically, that on said issue their knowledge is either insufficient or non-existent ("I don't know"). What a person believes and what he knows are categorically different things. As I said, "I don't know" is an epistemic response, reflecting agnosticism (privation of gnosis, knowledge). It doesn't tell you whether they are an atheist or a theist ("it tells you nothing about their beliefs"), since both can answer "I don't know" to the question of God's existence; e.g., a fideist says, "I don't know that God exists but I believe he does."
(November 18, 2010 at 3:57 pm)Lethe Wrote: Technically speaking, I'm agnostic about an invisible, intangible leprechaun masturbating to an equally invisible, intangible issue of Playboy magazine inside my closet; but, I am still an amasturbatinginvisibleintangibleleprechauninmyclosetist, as I lack belief.
So in terms relevant to deity, "Technically speaking, I'm agnostic about God; but I am still an atheist, as I lack belief." That is, you employ the term agnostic in your atheism because each term addresses a different aspect—what you do or don't know on the one hand, and what you do or don't believe on the other.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)