(September 30, 2015 at 4:11 pm)marianomanto Wrote:(September 30, 2015 at 3:28 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Do you believe religion is always poisonous, that every person who believes in a god is evil or does evil on account of holdng that belief? If so, those seem like some pretty difficult beliefs to back up with evidence. What do you got?
Thanks for the challenge. I did not say every person that belives in God is evil, but I do think religion is a poison to reason and morality. Like Hitch says: there are wicked things that can only be done in the name of Faith: suicide bombing, circumsition, etc.
I further think that even now, religion retards the advancement of civilization in many ways. For facts to back this up, you only need google to find the crimes that have been made in the name of God for milenia and that are still being done. For example: The pope himself (at the united nations!!) the other day called homosexual marriage a "colonization of the normal way of living of our societies that ignores the nature of genders (...)". That did not surprise me, he is the pope he is just doing what church does. What surprised me is that I did not find amongst my believing friends a single comment on this! They all respected his "authority" even when he was plainly homofobic. For other subjects, they are well open to discuss and debate ideas. But for things like this, their mind is poisoned, its tabu, they cannot talk against it.
Religions are in principle wrong and, in my opinion, if the principles that edify an belief are wrong, then the whole thing is wrong. No matter how hard you cherry pick singular verses or examples between the genocide and homofobia and slavory.
Sorry for the long answer I hope I didnt bore you.
Not too long. Wasn't bored. But it sounds like what you really think is that religion can be corrupting, not that it invariably will be. But your rhetoric lends itself to the stronger claim. Anyhow, there are many who believe as you do. I'm just not one of them.
