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Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection"
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RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection"
Yeah Randi sure did lions work to expose all the fakers including astral voyagers, if only more people read his books.

You know back in the day there was some serious study of this by Stanford Research Institute and astronomer J. Allen Hynek who were using astral visions by famous astral traveler Ingo Swann and Harold Sherman in advance of the Mariner 10 spacecraft's trip past Mercury and the voyage of Pioneer 10 past Jupiter. This just shows you how even educated people can be foolish.
Let's first see what they guessed and missed:
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We can assign them 24 out of 65, or 37 percent "hits." Their errors amount to at least 30 out of 65, or 46 percent. And this assessment deals only with the number of guesses, not with the quality of the information! Such gross errors as reporting that there are 30,000-foot-high mountain peaks on the Jovian landscape and also sandy, molten crust damn the results beyond redemption!

Later for BBC Swann claimed he had not gone to Jupiter after all! Travel by astral means is so fast and giddy, said he, that he had probably shot off into another solar system, somewhere in another star's gravity field, and had described for the breathless scientists another planet, not Jupiter! Thus we have an explanation for the errors, and all is well in Wonderland once more.

Nevertheless scientists were very pleased with results of their Jovian ramblings. According to Hynek, Swann's "impressions... cannot be dismissed," and the Stanford Research Institute was "very pleased."
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell said that Swann "described things and gave details which were not known to scientists until the Mariner 10 and Pioneer 10 satellites flew by the planets and got the information."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 7, 2015 at 2:38 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 2:42 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Aoi Magi - October 7, 2015 at 2:44 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Fake Messiah - October 7, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 7, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 4:43 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Aoi Magi - October 7, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 7, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 7, 2015 at 5:50 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 6:01 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bennyboy - October 7, 2015 at 6:27 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Fake Messiah - October 7, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Cato - October 7, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 7, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Cato - October 7, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 7, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by BlackBird - October 7, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Longhorn - October 7, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Alex K - October 7, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by The Valkyrie - October 7, 2015 at 9:22 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by drfuzzy - October 7, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by bambi_swag - October 8, 2015 at 12:29 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Cato - October 8, 2015 at 5:18 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Cyberman - October 8, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 5:45 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by houseofcantor - October 15, 2015 at 7:21 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 7:49 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by houseofcantor - October 15, 2015 at 8:07 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by houseofcantor - October 15, 2015 at 8:22 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Cyberman - October 8, 2015 at 3:32 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Losty - October 15, 2015 at 2:34 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:10 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 8:41 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Cyberman - October 15, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Losty - October 15, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by downbeatplumb - October 15, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by houseofcantor - October 15, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Losty - October 15, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by houseofcantor - October 15, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Losty - October 15, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Skeptic-bait #1: "Astral Projection" - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2015 at 10:06 am

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