(October 8, 2015 at 6:28 am)Thena323 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 2:41 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:This was taken from the NKJV Bible, but it doesn't matter. It says essentially the same thing in every version.
beware of perversions of bibles in modern day retranslations. I believe there is a hidden agenda to change verses to refute biblical doctrines. Read the KJV bible.
Don't be deceived. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Believe on Him alone and you will be saved.
The only deceiving going on, is what you're doing to yourself. I suppose this is how you escape from a Biblical "truth" that you just can't interpret your way out of it. It says what it says.
Guess you should've picked a different verse(s) to discuss.
Hmm, I hadn't considered it from this POV before... but if Jesus said that wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, but that only a few will actually find the narrow gate to life, doesn't it mean that the overwhelming majority-religion on the planet is wrong, then?
Can someone look up for me which religion has the overwhelming majority number of adherents, and is thus clearly the "wide gate / broad way"?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
