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Karl Marx followers?
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RE: Karl Marx followers?
Are you implying that Karl Marx wanted his theory to be applied to slay humans? I do believe Friedrich Engels wanted a more 'peaceful revolution' rather than a violent one. Ah, I have never heard of that term, thanks. I really don't think killing Romanovs would have solved anything, it led to Stalin leading the country, which made it worse.



(December 5, 2010 at 10:10 pm)padraic Wrote:
Quote:I agree! Lenin went too far with it, killing the Tsarist was simply not moral;


What has that got to do with anything?

Realpolitik is based on pragmatism,and is amoral. In the same situation, I would have killed as many Romanovs as I could get my hands on,but much sooner.That action was absolutely politically necessary.
Besides,there was never a Marxist state in Russia or in what became the USSR. Communism by definition is democratic and cannot be a totalitarian state.



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Quote:Realpolitik (see also Political realism; from German: real “realistic”, “practical” or “actual”; and Politik “politics”) refers to politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than ideological notions or moralistic or ethical premises. In this respect, it shares aspects of its philosophical approach with those of realism and pragmatism. The term realpolitik is sometimes used pejoratively to imply politics that are coercive, amoral, or Machiavellian. Realpolitik is a theory of politics that focuses on considerations of power, not ideals, morals, or principles. The term was coined by Ludwig von Rochau, a German writer and politician in the 19th century, following Klemens von Metternich's lead in finding ways to balance the power of European empires. Balancing power to keep the European pentarchy was the means for keeping the peace, and careful Realpolitik practitioners tried to avoid arms races.

Rodrigo Borja defines it as the principle on which nations act, in their foreign policies, driven by their own interests and not by altruism, friendship, idealism or solidarity considerations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik
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Messages In This Thread
Karl Marx followers? - by Marx - December 5, 2010 at 10:57 am
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Shinylight - December 5, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Marx - December 5, 2010 at 12:13 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Shinylight - December 5, 2010 at 12:20 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Marx - December 5, 2010 at 8:46 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Autumnlicious - December 5, 2010 at 2:55 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Minimalist - December 5, 2010 at 2:59 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by padraic - December 5, 2010 at 5:21 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by padraic - December 5, 2010 at 10:10 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Marx - December 6, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by padraic - December 6, 2010 at 8:07 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Rev. Rye - December 6, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by theVOID - December 6, 2010 at 10:40 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by Marx - December 11, 2010 at 10:55 am
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by The Omnissiunt One - December 11, 2010 at 7:28 am
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by padraic - December 11, 2010 at 5:51 pm
RE: Karl Marx followers? - by GANIMEDE - December 23, 2010 at 6:26 pm

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