(October 20, 2015 at 11:43 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:If you believe in Quran, you have to believe in the family of Mohammad. And if you believe in them, you have to believe hadiths are of value, even if you can't determine each hadith with certainty.(October 20, 2015 at 11:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The Quran designates the family of Mohammad (42:23/25:57) as the path towards God, in which attachment and love to them leads straight to God.
Exactly who the family of Mohammad is to be known through hadiths.
There is only one set of hadiths naming all his successors - and we can know - that being commanded to obey them (4:59), they would be named and designated by God and his Prophet. As such the hadiths naming the 12 Imams and numbering them stand as a proof for all humans who believe in the Quran.
No one is saying we should fight over this issue:
"And if a party of you believe and another party don't believe then wait patiently till God judges between us with truth and God is the best of judges".-Quran
The hadith literature is based on spoken reports that were in circulation in society and gathered into large collections during the 8th and 9th centuries, generations after the death of Muhammad
Unlike the Quran itself, which was compiled under the official direction of the early Islamic State in Medinah, the hadith reports were not compiled by a central authority.
so you are going to trust rumors and spoken "reports" ... these hadiths .... that who knows who contributed to collected generations after Muhammad ? and base this constant fighting on the information contained in one of these highly questionable word of mouth hadiths?
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