RE: Creation Muesum
October 23, 2015 at 10:48 am
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2015 at 11:07 am by Anomalocaris.)
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The method of science is not to put any value on faith, or take any proposition as received truth. So yes, unless your "reformed" Christianity derived nothing from the bible, nothing from what you were told Jesus said, and nothing from the Christian tradition that were not trivial and common to a host of other traditions, your Christianity is nothing but, and can never be anything more than, the antithesis of methods of science, however much it likes to cloak its base wishthinking and intellectual dishonesty, to say nothing of its goal of perpetuating its own intellectual domination through repetition of the make belief, in a veneer of sciency terminology.
In short, If your reformed Christianity didn't reform the bible, God, Jesus or the disciples totally and completely out of Christianity, your Christianity remains the antithesis of science.
(October 23, 2015 at 9:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 23, 2015 at 8:29 am)Chuck Wrote: There isn't, and can't ever be, "Christian" science. Christianity is fundamentally the antithesis of science, no matter how much Christianity would wish to give its primitive idiots superstition modern legitimacy by stealing the reputation of science.
I've always found this type of statement interesting. Christianity is not the antithesis of science, and I'm amused by such generalities. It seems that it is often made, based on the result, and not the method. I believe this is incorrect, as the descriptor is based on the conclusion, while I believe science is more about method.
Science is the collection of data through physical observance and testing. Then from all the data, a conclusion or inference is made, and if possible further testing can be done to verify conclusions (not all science can be tested).
I don't believe that a different interpretation of the evidence, means that the opposing view is not scientific (only that at least one view contains an error). Ideally science is objective, and the data is analyzed without a priori assumptions or bias. In reality this, is never the case. However this doesn't mean that we are unable to produce good science. What I look for is what the conclusion is based on, and if it is reasonable. Do they include all the evidence, or only the evidence which supports their case? Do they attempt an explanation for evidence which may oppose or cause difficulties in their conclusion? Does the conclusion follow from the evidence or is it based on something else. I would note, that the motivation for the study being based on a view outside of science, does not mean that the work is not scientific. This would be the genetic fallacy.
There are some Christian's who try to force their views from outside sources into science when the conclusion is not primarily based on science. I also see some materialist doing the same thing. Science isn't the only basis for truth. And we need to reconcile all the sources of truth, to get a true view of reality.
The method of science is not to put any value on faith, or take any proposition as received truth. So yes, unless your "reformed" Christianity derived nothing from the bible, nothing from what you were told Jesus said, and nothing from the Christian tradition that were not trivial and common to a host of other traditions, your Christianity is nothing but, and can never be anything more than, the antithesis of methods of science, however much it likes to cloak its base wishthinking and intellectual dishonesty, to say nothing of its goal of perpetuating its own intellectual domination through repetition of the make belief, in a veneer of sciency terminology.
In short, If your reformed Christianity didn't reform the bible, God, Jesus or the disciples totally and completely out of Christianity, your Christianity remains the antithesis of science.