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Creation Muesum
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RE: Creation Muesum
(October 23, 2015 at 9:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:


(October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Which is exactly what "Christian Science" is. Any "reputable" (and by reputable I mean accepted by Christians) Christian source has a statement of faith like the one from AiG I posted above. They literally state that any evidence which contradicts scripture must, by definition, be wrongly interpreted. Science can never start with an unassailable position. That is the antithesis of science.

This is a generalization. I would also point out that many naturalist make a similar claim (and with much less reason). I also take into consideration, that either the info gathered from science or scripture, may be wrongfully interpreted by myself.

(October 23, 2015 at 9:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:


(October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: If they start with the conclusion, then it is not scientific. By definition. If you start with the conclusion that the world must be 6,000 years old, and then go and search for corroborating evidence, even if said evidence is collected in a "scientific" manner, you are still only collecting evidence in a scientific manner. The interpretation of the evidence with the conclusion already in mind is not science. It is arm waving at its basest.

So then... if I am told by my teacher, that evolution is true, and then proceed to demonstrate in a scientific manner that it is true, then it is not science? It would seem that under this definition much of science, is not science!

(October 23, 2015 at 9:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:


(October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Empirical observation is the only method for arriving at a realistic conclusion. Getting your "truth" from a 2000 year old book and co-opting modern knowledge into that, I'm sorry, is not a reconciliation of truth. It's wish granting, and I'll not be a part of it.

Are you saying, that unless something is observed, it is not science? Can science make an inference based on what is observed, to come to a conclusion about what was likely the cause (which was not empirically observed)?
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Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 1:23 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Minimalist - October 23, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Anomalocaris - October 23, 2015 at 8:29 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 23, 2015 at 9:58 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 23, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by downbeatplumb - October 23, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by SteelCurtain - October 23, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 23, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by SteelCurtain - October 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Esquilax - October 23, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 23, 2015 at 11:49 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by SteelCurtain - October 24, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 25, 2015 at 5:44 pm
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