Creation Muesum

[Exian]

the reason you can't understand the concept of a "timeless creator", is because you're not spiritual. the bible states that God is a spirit,

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

can you tell me what a "spirit" is made of? If you don't know what a spirit is, how can you understand it's existence? The closest thing you'll get to describing God from a natural point of view, is as light.

Can you tell me what a spirit is made of, Huggy? Because if you can't, according to you, you don't know God. According to you, and the fact that a spirit has never shown itself to be measurable, nobody knows God.

You asked "If you don't know what a spirit is, how can you understand it's existence?" Naturally, I'd want to examine it in order to learn what it is or what it can do, but because its never been observed ever in the world anywhere, it's going to be real hard to understand its existence.

Understanding something's existence usually isn't that hard. You look at the thing as its sitting there existing, and you just sort of intuitively understand that that thing is sitting there existing. Knowing what that thing is or what it can do usually comes later; after you have established that it is, in fact, sitting there existing, not the other way around (unless you have a supported model that allows you to make a prediction, which still needs to be tested).