RE: Creation Muesum
October 24, 2015 at 3:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2015 at 3:41 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(October 24, 2015 at 3:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(October 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm)Cecelia Wrote: You're using an incredibly unreliable source that includes talking snakes, talking donkey's, talking bushes that are on fire, and a story about an ark that could not have existed.
Scientists have hypothesized that the universe may have always existed. Meaning that the Universe has an infinite age, rather than just over 13 billion years. It's certainly not impossible, and more likely than the biblical explanation at the very least. There's several other possibilities. The truth is we won't have an answer in our lifetimes. At least not a concrete answer. If you just want AN answer, then there's several to choose from.
A hypothesis is based off of evidence, which is why it is called an "educated" guess, as opposed to just a "guess". Upon what evidence is an "eternal" universe based?
And for the record, there were no talking snakes in the Bible.
I'm just wondering how many others are going to beat me to the punch, answering this one. (Maybe none, since I see it's 18 minutes since he posted this... sorry I've been busy in the real world, temporarily.)
Let's see... where in the Bible might I find proof to the contrary?
The Bible in Genesis chapter three Wrote:1. Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, [...]
4 The serpent said to the woman, [...]
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” And the woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
14 The Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
Now, before you tell me I'm a confused atheist, I already know that your doctrine is likely like mine growing up, believing that "the Serpent" was actually Satan Himself, and not a real snake, and that "serpent" is a reference to The Dragon, Satan, a connection from Genesis to the claims in Revelation.
If that is the case, though, it begs the question of why God felt the need to tell snakes they could crawl on their bellies, be cursed more than cows and "every beast of the field".
Now go ahead and tell me that I "just don't understand any of this", or somesuch.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.