(October 24, 2015 at 1:05 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Time is relative....
2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Would you care to say something, you know, relevant? Because time can be relative, but what it can't be, is non-existent in a setting where distinct events occur in an order.
Quote:No, that math is according to science...
Matter can be formed from energy correct? If God IS light that would mean that he IS energy (i'm over simplifying here, I don't presume to know what God is made of... but we do know that light is created by energy)
This means it is entirely within the boundaries of science, for an entity of pure energy to create matter.
... What was my overarching point, about things needing to be possible before they are within the boundaries of science? I don't care, in the least, how you spin the bible to match up with what you think science is, until you can get that spin to connect up with a demonstrably possible phenomena, which would only be step one of getting your idea some scientific credibility, and you're not even doing that now. All you're doing is changing the impossible claim you're making, adding new stipulations without going back to deal with that necessary first condition: whether you want your god to be an energy being or not, doesn't change the fact that you haven't demonstrated that it's possible for there to be one of those. Conscious energy? Haven't demonstrated that! Energy capable of creating universes? Haven't demonstrated that! All of this being your specific christian god, with its specific edicts and opinions? Haven't demonstrated that!
This is the problem with you puffed up christian science prevaricators, you want to skip all the hard work of science in favor of piggybacking on whatever little shreds of the work of real scientists you can bother to understand for the credibility alone. You don't care about truth, you care about twisting science to fit your insipid little religion, and the proof of that is how easy you find it to ignore all the necessary steps, the basic understanding of not only how science works, but how basic epistemology works, in order to reach your preferred conclusion.
Possible before considered. Considered before probable. Probable before science. You're not even playing the game, you're just trying to jam "consistent with," somewhere in that simple calculus, as though "my magic thing would totally work there because it does magic," is the same as "my magic thing is most probably true based on X, Y, and Z observations and experimental data."
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You would seem to agree with the bible
John
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not
Here it is stating the God WAS the singularity in the beginning in which all things existed.
Are you stupid? Serious question: are you an idiot?
Because you seem to have real trouble with the idea that impossible things cannot be true, and that makes me think that you're an idiot. The fact that you keep preaching to me, like "it says so in a book," is going to convince me of anything, kinda confirms it. The fact that you also think you can slip in your specific christian god, a mind with opinions and a weird dumb personal history, in with what we've already established to be a singularity of matter and energy, seemingly expecting me to just ignore all the other related claims of your religion and just go with the one claim you've managed to awkwardly shoehorn into the science you don't understand, is just the icing on the cake.
So, I mean, you can either admit that you're an idiot, or you can admit that you have a hell of a lot of work to do here even if I happened to accept your self serving spin game here. Which is it, Huggy? Is your argument stupid, or wildly incomplete?
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