(October 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Events occur in a temporal framework, there is literally no possible way they could not.
Pretty much definitionally, they do. I suppose you could try to weasel out of it by denying our understating of causality, but it seems to me that you'd have to abandon any objection to infinite regress and reliance on prime mover arguments (given that both of those concepts are tightly coupled to our notions of causality). The entire idea of a timeless agent is utterly incoherent otherwise.
Not that that will actually prevent anyone from attempting exactly that - but frankly, if someone's willing to do that without concern for the implications of that position, well, let's just say I'm not having that discussion.
