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Creation Muesum
RE: Creation Muesum
(October 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Holy shit, dude. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many problems.

The first and most egregious one being where you conflate psychosomatic healing (the Placebo Effect) with actual magic and faith-efficacy. As you noted, faith in the efficacy of the doctors' magical medicine (which was neighter magical nor effective, in reality) was enough for this guy's brain to fool his body. There may be some amazing natural shit going on there, but it is neither magical nor proof of the "power of faith". Unless, of course, you think that Krebiozen is a god who grants magical powers. And the notion of "a strong man" casting out disease is beyond ridiculous... I knew you fundy-types had issues with scientific theories in general, but I didn't know you'd have such a weak grasp on Germ Theory!

Only slightly less weird is your sudden launch into the Alla-style "more on that later" type of discussion, like you can't let all the Deep Insights™ out at once. We know that you guys think "the serpent" was animated by the spirit of Satan the Accuser, rather than a normal, physical snake-with-legs-that-could-just-talk, even though that ignores the serpent-imagery/mythologies that were rampant in the Fertile Crescent at that point in history, and that likewise the Donkey was acting under the possession of an angelic spirit that animated it to talk. It's just... you guys just can't seem to tell the obvious (to us) difference between an allegory and a transcript!

The reason Sarai/Sarah was still lovely is because they were only middle-aged. She might've been past likely childbearing age, but certainly not "old" except by modern standards. You should know that. According to your mythology, Abram/Abraham lived to be 175, so being 90 would be roughly 52% of his total lifespan, or roughly equivalent to my age, now (I am 39, with an average life-expectancy of 76 years, putting me at 52% of my total lifespan). My Beloved is still pretty attractive, as am I, no?

I can and do deny that the Bible made any claims about Relativity. Stating that God is outside of causal time is not exactly a surprise; I'd be surprised, rather, if they did not attach such a superlative to their descriptions of their tribe's Ultimate Alpha Male! (What you prefer to call God.) You are indeed reading into things that do not demonstrate a causal link at all, let alone proof of causation... in a fairly amazing amount, I'd say.

There is a reason why I've never started a thread, on this forum. I know that no matter how much evidence is presented, people can't/refuse to see it.

This is proven where in a particular thread, where a prominent member of this forum claimed Denmark had a secular government (which it does not), and plenty of members here agreed with that position. Upon being present proof that Denmark in fact had a state sponsored religion, to this day they refuse to acknowledge that evidence and continue to insist that Denmark has a secular government.

If people here can't accept that which is easily proven (secularism is pretty much black and white, either you have a state sponsored religion or you don't), how are people going to accept an explanation of spiritual matters?

I will address this though.
Quote:The reason Sarai/Sarah was still lovely is because they were only middle-aged. She might've been past likely childbearing age, but certainly not "old" except by modern standards. You should know that. According to your mythology, Abram/Abraham lived to be 175, so being 90 would be roughly 52% of his total lifespan, or roughly equivalent to my age, now (I am 39, with an average life-expectancy of 76 years, putting me at 52% of my total lifespan).

90 years old is 90 years old, there is no relativity involved here a year is a year. Abraham lived as long as he did for the reason I explained.

The bible states that they were old and "well stricken in age" so much so that Sarah thought that her having a child was a joke and she laughed.
Quote:Genesis 18
10 And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him.
11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.
12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?

A middle-aged man is not well-stricken with age. You used yourself as an example making a comparison with Abraham. Do you consider yourself to be well stricken with age?

I should also add that I am not a "fundie". I also do not belong to any organization.

hence "I belive in God, not religion"
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Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 1:23 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Minimalist - October 23, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 1:44 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by downbeatplumb - October 23, 2015 at 11:07 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 23, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by SteelCurtain - October 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRealJoeFish - October 23, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Anomalocaris - October 23, 2015 at 10:48 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Esquilax - October 25, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Crossless1 - October 25, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 25, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Crossless1 - October 26, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Esquilax - October 26, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by SteelCurtain - October 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 27, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by houseofcantor - October 24, 2015 at 4:39 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Jenny A - October 23, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Bob Kelso - October 23, 2015 at 10:41 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Huggy Bear - October 25, 2015 at 2:05 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Cato - October 26, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Thumpalumpacus - October 31, 2015 at 2:58 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Esquilax - October 25, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Huggy Bear - October 25, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Esquilax - October 25, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Huggy Bear - October 25, 2015 at 4:17 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Jenny A - October 23, 2015 at 1:20 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Minimalist - October 23, 2015 at 12:56 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by ignoramus - October 23, 2015 at 2:31 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Alex K - October 23, 2015 at 2:34 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Minimalist - October 23, 2015 at 2:49 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Jackalope - October 23, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 3:53 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Jackalope - October 23, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 23, 2015 at 4:46 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by downbeatplumb - October 23, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by robvalue - October 23, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 23, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 5:00 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 23, 2015 at 5:54 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by Blondie - October 23, 2015 at 6:39 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Minimalist - October 23, 2015 at 4:48 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 25, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 25, 2015 at 2:37 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Ravenshire - October 25, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 25, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by RoadRunner79 - October 25, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRealJoeFish - October 26, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Creation Muesum - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Huggy Bear - October 26, 2015 at 12:57 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by downbeatplumb - October 26, 2015 at 1:59 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Huggy Bear - October 26, 2015 at 11:38 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by JesusHChrist - October 26, 2015 at 10:03 pm
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RE: Creation Muesum - by Esquilax - October 27, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Creation Muesum - by Bob Kelso - October 30, 2015 at 3:26 am
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RE: Creation Muesum - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2015 at 8:53 pm
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