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Actual Infinities
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RE: Actual Infinities
(October 28, 2015 at 4:22 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Are saying that before humans existed and after they are gone it is possible for something to both be and not be simultaneously and in all respects?

No.

Your very sentence implies an external observer reasoning about something as being or not being. If you wiped out all intelligent life than they wouldn't be making that observation.

True and False are values that we apply to something. Like the number 1, 2, 3 etc.

We have one apple, two apples etc There is no such thing as just a One, or a Two.

Maths is made up. Logic is made up.

Which logic do you think would exist even if the human race were wiped out? First order logic? Second order logic? Modal logic? Fuzzy logic?
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Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2015 at 1:23 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 1:42 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2015 at 2:11 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Jenny A - October 28, 2015 at 2:28 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Silver - October 28, 2015 at 2:31 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Jenny A - October 28, 2015 at 2:33 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - October 28, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Grandizer - October 28, 2015 at 3:22 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Anomalocaris - October 28, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 3:18 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Grandizer - October 28, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2015 at 4:19 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Grandizer - October 28, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Angrboda - October 28, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Grandizer - October 28, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Silver - October 28, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by TheRealJoeFish - October 28, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2015 at 5:32 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 5:24 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ErGingerbreadMandude - October 28, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 28, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by ErGingerbreadMandude - October 29, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 5:44 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 6:08 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 6:11 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 6:18 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 6:21 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 6:34 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 6:40 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 6:24 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ErGingerbreadMandude - October 28, 2015 at 6:28 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 6:32 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 28, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Anomalocaris - October 28, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 29, 2015 at 3:52 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 5:21 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 8:03 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 29, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 8:12 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Grandizer - October 30, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 30, 2015 at 4:58 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 28, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Excited Penguin - October 28, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 29, 2015 at 5:02 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 29, 2015 at 6:06 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ErGingerbreadMandude - October 29, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - October 29, 2015 at 10:31 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 29, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - October 30, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 30, 2015 at 4:55 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 30, 2015 at 5:07 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - October 30, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 30, 2015 at 5:39 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 30, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Anomalocaris - October 30, 2015 at 7:41 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - October 30, 2015 at 8:22 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 29, 2015 at 5:08 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 29, 2015 at 6:28 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 29, 2015 at 8:18 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 8:20 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 8:26 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 29, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 29, 2015 at 9:41 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 29, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 29, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 29, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 30, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 30, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 30, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 30, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 30, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by MysticKnight - October 29, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by MysticKnight - October 29, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2015 at 11:39 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 30, 2015 at 3:11 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - October 30, 2015 at 5:23 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - October 30, 2015 at 5:42 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 30, 2015 at 5:28 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 30, 2015 at 7:48 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Anomalocaris - October 30, 2015 at 7:57 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 30, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Anomalocaris - October 30, 2015 at 6:08 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - October 30, 2015 at 7:49 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - October 30, 2015 at 7:51 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - October 30, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - November 4, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - November 4, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - November 4, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - November 4, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - November 4, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - November 4, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - November 4, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Angrboda - November 4, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - November 4, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - November 4, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by jenny1972 - November 4, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - November 5, 2015 at 1:39 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Edwardo Piet - November 5, 2015 at 1:48 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - November 5, 2015 at 2:26 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - November 5, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - November 5, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - November 5, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Edwardo Piet - November 5, 2015 at 2:35 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Reforged - November 5, 2015 at 2:59 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 5, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - November 5, 2015 at 3:20 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Edwardo Piet - November 5, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by houseofcantor - November 5, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 5, 2015 at 3:21 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by ignoramus - November 5, 2015 at 6:25 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 5, 2015 at 7:14 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Alex K - November 5, 2015 at 7:32 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 5, 2015 at 8:45 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by I_am_not_mafia - November 5, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by ErGingerbreadMandude - November 5, 2015 at 7:41 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Edwardo Piet - November 5, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 5, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Angrboda - November 5, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 5, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by Mudhammam - November 5, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: Actual Infinities - by robvalue - November 6, 2015 at 3:05 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Actual Infinities - by Neo-Scholastic - November 6, 2015 at 8:48 am

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