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The Extremis of Rationality
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RE: The Extremis of Rationality
(November 8, 2015 at 5:45 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Complex is what reality is. complicated is what we make it.

Understanding time is kinda like understanding space. Where does space began and where does it end. If space had a beginning and an end, then what lies beyond that? It is infinite. So where in this infinity is our universe? At what point? So, at what point in eternity did time begin?

If time is change and change is the activities of matter, then to say that time began is to break the law of inertia. Why is it impossible to accept that time and space and matter and the laws of matter did not begin but always were? The theists reject this out of hand without giving a reason. Yet it is not impossible.in fact it’s the only conclusion that doesn’t require something impossible.
Where did I go wrong in my argument in the OP? There I argued that an infinite regress of change means that a series of infinite changes have reached the completion of their set, as the present is its end term for which no future time has yet come into existence, and that amounts to saying that it is possible to traverse the whole of an infinite series. But an infinite series cannot have an end term because that is the very definition of infinitude - it has no end or final term.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by vorlon13 - November 8, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Faith No More - November 8, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by jenny1972 - November 8, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by I_am_not_mafia - November 8, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Alex K - November 8, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Whateverist - December 6, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Chad32 - November 8, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by robvalue - November 8, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by robvalue - November 8, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 9, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Thumpalumpacus - November 8, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by RoadRunner79 - November 9, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - November 27, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 30, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 29, 2015 at 1:01 pm

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