Hi everybody. It's been quite a while since I visited so I'm glad to be back.
I've been interested for a while now in the pre-sup attempt made by Christians. Interested in destroying it. If not careful, and if new to this form of apologetics, one could get caught stumbling on how to respond to it. If you don't believe me, just watch "debates" involving it if you have time. SaeTen(Satan) Bruggencate is the worst... So watch his. I'm not by any means saying he wins, but when his opponents have never heard the argument before, they stumble. I really urge people to watch a few his debates but here is a shortened version of his pre-supp BS:
http://youtu.be/U8q0hxqdq8A
So I have some rebuttals that I hope can help some people and be expounded on by all. So tell me what you think ?. Christians welcome as well ?. I'll keep these brief.
⚫️It's incredibly circular and not demonstrable in any way. That's obviously enough for some people to say it is retarded.
⚫️When asked if you could be wrong about everything you know, do not say yes. The correct answer is no. I know I exist, I know there can't be a spherical triangle, no married bachelor, etc. These are truths, they are facts, and since I exist, I KNOW them.
⚫️Now we use their exact tactics against them:
?God does not exist (therefore)
?God is not required to have knowledge (therefore)
?I CAN have knowledge (therefore)
?I DO have knowledge (therefore)
?I know God does not exist
⚫️?I'll end this by saying it's interesting that pre suppositional Christian apologetics seems to take faith from believers by saying God is a fact. Hmmm "Satan Bruggencate" much!? ?
I've been interested for a while now in the pre-sup attempt made by Christians. Interested in destroying it. If not careful, and if new to this form of apologetics, one could get caught stumbling on how to respond to it. If you don't believe me, just watch "debates" involving it if you have time. SaeTen(Satan) Bruggencate is the worst... So watch his. I'm not by any means saying he wins, but when his opponents have never heard the argument before, they stumble. I really urge people to watch a few his debates but here is a shortened version of his pre-supp BS:
http://youtu.be/U8q0hxqdq8A
So I have some rebuttals that I hope can help some people and be expounded on by all. So tell me what you think ?. Christians welcome as well ?. I'll keep these brief.
⚫️It's incredibly circular and not demonstrable in any way. That's obviously enough for some people to say it is retarded.
⚫️When asked if you could be wrong about everything you know, do not say yes. The correct answer is no. I know I exist, I know there can't be a spherical triangle, no married bachelor, etc. These are truths, they are facts, and since I exist, I KNOW them.
⚫️Now we use their exact tactics against them:
?God does not exist (therefore)
?God is not required to have knowledge (therefore)
?I CAN have knowledge (therefore)
?I DO have knowledge (therefore)
?I know God does not exist
⚫️?I'll end this by saying it's interesting that pre suppositional Christian apologetics seems to take faith from believers by saying God is a fact. Hmmm "Satan Bruggencate" much!? ?
