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Atheist Heroes?
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RE: Atheist Heroes?
The level of civilian casualties, due to shock and awe, is and was lower than would be expected of many other possible plans we could have went with.  There simply is no con to winning a war decisively and quickly.  It's good for -everybody-, even the enemy.  Do you see what happens when it gets drug out?  He advocated for war to free Iraqis from a failed state, and a tyrannical despot.  He advocated for shock and awe because it could end conflict quickly, and yes...with reduced civilian casualties.  He -did not- advocate for our mishandling of the occupation...which accounts for those phenomenally high casualties, he was highly critical of it.

Shock and awe is not what you think it is, it didn't do what you think it did.  How could a person be remiss in not explaining something that you are mistaken about?  There was nothing for him to sweep under the rug, do you understand?

Did you ever see how Hitchens handled "enhanced interrogation" btw?  The guy you think was being intellectually dishonest, about something you have a slight factual problem regarding, subjected himself to waterboarding and completely changed his mind, publicly, on the subject that he'd been previously very glib about.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Atheist Heroes? - by Mechaghostman2 - November 13, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 13, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Homeless Nutter - November 13, 2015 at 7:57 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Silver - November 13, 2015 at 4:40 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 13, 2015 at 4:53 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Red_Wind - November 13, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by abaris - November 13, 2015 at 5:59 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2015 at 6:02 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Alex K - November 13, 2015 at 6:12 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Whateverist - November 13, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Alex K - November 13, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Whateverist - November 13, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Alex K - November 13, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by SteelCurtain - November 13, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Minimalist - November 13, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Shining_Finger - November 13, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Simon Moon - November 13, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 13, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by AFTT47 - November 13, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by brewer - November 13, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Simon Moon - November 13, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Whateverist - November 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Vincent - November 13, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 1:10 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 2:13 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 2:21 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 2:53 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 3:15 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 4:21 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 6:23 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 7:30 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 7:37 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 16, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Reforged - November 17, 2015 at 1:30 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Catholic_Lady - November 16, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Crossless1 - November 16, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Homeless Nutter - November 17, 2015 at 7:49 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by Homeless Nutter - November 17, 2015 at 7:43 am
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: Atheist Heroes? - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 10:58 am

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