RE: Atheist Heroes?
November 16, 2015 at 4:21 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2015 at 4:40 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Yes, I know it was anything but quick and decisive, but that isn't because the shock and awe phase failed. That went entirely according to plan and yeilded only a small fraction of the civilian casualties produced by the conflict. I could explain to you, right now, why the US doesn't want to be seen assassinating the Heads of State of foreign countries, if you need to have that explained.
Yes, we botched the occupation, but again, Hitchens wasn't advocating for a botched occupation, and never missed an opportunity to opine upon how badly botched that occupation was. You keep saying things like "it was his job" and "he should have known". Was it his job, and why should he have known? Do you think anyone was sharing state secrets with him? Did they invite him to the pentagon for a planning session? Do you think he could have predicted how the occupation would go, was that his area of expertise? He -did- lay out his pro-war position, both before and after the realization that we had been lied into the war. You're criticizing the man for something that wasn't a part of his position. Your criticizing him for failing to see how things would turn out when we -didn't- follow the plan he advocated for. We went some other, weird way with it, and then got our asses handed to us by insurgents, another enemy, we didn't expect and were not prepared for. It was embarrassing, and frustrating. We got a handle on that, then fucked it up a little more, just for good measure......or maybe just because we missed the feeling of fucking things up, idk.
(The US military and government, btw, publicly pride themselves on alot of things that they can't actually do, it's called propaganda - controlling information and building an image, lol.)
Yes, we botched the occupation, but again, Hitchens wasn't advocating for a botched occupation, and never missed an opportunity to opine upon how badly botched that occupation was. You keep saying things like "it was his job" and "he should have known". Was it his job, and why should he have known? Do you think anyone was sharing state secrets with him? Did they invite him to the pentagon for a planning session? Do you think he could have predicted how the occupation would go, was that his area of expertise? He -did- lay out his pro-war position, both before and after the realization that we had been lied into the war. You're criticizing the man for something that wasn't a part of his position. Your criticizing him for failing to see how things would turn out when we -didn't- follow the plan he advocated for. We went some other, weird way with it, and then got our asses handed to us by insurgents, another enemy, we didn't expect and were not prepared for. It was embarrassing, and frustrating. We got a handle on that, then fucked it up a little more, just for good measure......or maybe just because we missed the feeling of fucking things up, idk.
(The US military and government, btw, publicly pride themselves on alot of things that they can't actually do, it's called propaganda - controlling information and building an image, lol.)
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