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Why the Hebrews?
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RE: Why the Hebrews?
(November 15, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote:  


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IF you believe that Salvation came through Jesus Christ - - and as many believe, the true followers of Yahweh who predated him were retroactively "saved" - - then what of all the other people?  What of the other nations who worshiped other gods: China, Egypt, India, Greece, Babylon, the Mayans . . . Stonehenge was started about 3000 bce, and I don't believe Ben Carson when he says the Noah built it as a dog park after the flood.
  What of them?
Do you wrongly assume they all go to hell?

Acts 17 tells us that God places his law on all of our heart and even (before Christ) he allowed those with out the law (non Jews) to worship what ever gods in an effort to honor the laws he put in our hearts. But now demands we all come to repentance under Christ.    

 
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Why would the creator of billions upon billions of galaxies decide to show up and focus on one tiny little Semitic tribe who lived in an area 20,770 km / 12,906 square miles (1/4 of the size of England) - who were not as advanced as many other nations of their time?  If this creator truly wants to "save" everyone, why this one tiny tribe, and no contact with any other nations? What of the many, many people who had no knowledge of Yahweh?  
 



In short God judges us based on what we have been given, the more we are given the more we are responsible to. If we prove to be responsible to what we have then greater our reward. The ultimate goal is not just heaven, but reward in heaven and a better position/job.

Christ died to forgive sins and be in a position judge the world/decide who is and is not Christian. This is  not a title we can award ourselves with any meaning or accuracy. Christ alone decides who is and is not saved.  


So, in your first statement (that I bolded red) you say that before Christ, people could worship any god they wanted.  But now it's Christ and ONLY Christ.   Well, darn it, those lucky bastards who lived in China 2,000 years ago!!  They got a pass.  
              But now Christ gets to give a thumbs up or thumbs down on everybody, according to the second red statement.  Well, I really think all atheists should get a pass.  He hasn't given us proof of his existence.  And I could see how the Muslims that are now begging the world to see them as peaceful and intelligent could get a pass, but folks like the Westboro Baptist Church will not.  Yeah, if I believed in an afterlife, I would go with that. I don't think many sheeple pastors would agree with me though.
              AND, in today's world, the majority of the planet knows what xtians believe. And out of more than 8 billion people on this planet, at least 6 billion reject xtianity - either because they were raised into a different religion, because they were raised with no religion, so it makes no sense to them, or because they have deconverted.  And rejection of Christ sends them to hell, doesn't it?  Hell is going to be a crowded place.
              Nope, this doesn't answer the question at all.  For millennia, people can worship any way they want, and if they are good, gawd gives 'em a pass. Then Jesus comes along, gets himself crucified for insurrection, and suddenly the whole world is in debt to him for something that they didn't need and didn't want.  Suddenly the whole world has to kowtow to a preacher from a little backwater tribe that most of the planet didn't know existed.  But if they don't bow down and worship this monster, he's going to fry them for eternity. And for 2000 years all the "proof" we have is fairy tales in an offensive and contradictory book, and the ravings of bible thumping, frothing at the mouth, baby raping witch doctors.  
               I'm going with science, and evidence, and logic.  I'll leave the frothing at the mouth to you.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 13, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Minimalist - November 13, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by abaris - November 13, 2015 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Divinity - November 13, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Minimalist - November 13, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Chad32 - November 13, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 13, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 13, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 14, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 14, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by ronedee - November 13, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 13, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by brewer - November 14, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Cecelia - November 14, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Minimalist - November 14, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 14, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Lek - November 14, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Minimalist - November 14, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Lek - November 14, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Minimalist - November 14, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 15, 2015 at 5:30 am
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Drich - November 15, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 16, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by Minimalist - November 16, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by jcvamp - November 30, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why the Hebrews? - by drfuzzy - November 30, 2015 at 3:54 pm

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