(November 16, 2015 at 4:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I guess the one sticky point, is that the quran does, indeed, advocate for the death of kafir, and when you can't manage that, their treatment as second class citizens. The radicals aren't exactly being "un-islamic". Most people find ways to square that circle, and rightly so. Is islam to blame for the things that radical muslims do? At least in part, and when it explictly makes requests of believers, yes. To state otherwise is silly. Does this mean that all muslims will do those things, or believe that those things are righteous? No, ofc not. The offended friend is, herself, very dismissive of others religious convictions, privileging her own interpretations over those of her fellows for no discernible reason. It's hard for me to manufacture sympathy for people in that situation, personally. ISIS, for example, is as thoroughly and devoutly muslim as your offended friend, and that's something she'll probably need to come to terms with at some point. But there's no sense in stirring the pot at work in any case.
One of my bigges problems is that I have never read the Koran and perhaps I should because she insists that it explicitly states that killing one person would be like killing the whole world, but then I read things to the contrary which I told her and she said those parts only refer to specific battles during the times of its writing.