RE: What if Everyone was Atheist?
November 19, 2015 at 5:58 am
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2015 at 6:09 am by miaharun.)
(November 19, 2015 at 4:43 am)robvalue Wrote: Mia: If you suddenly stopped believing in Karma and such, do you think you'd become a worse person? If so, what do you think you would do, and why?
I cant answer that question because i was brought up as a Buddhist. I already know whats right and wrong. Even if i don't believe in Karma i will always do the right thing. Because i have empathy. I put my shoes into the other persons and see if i will like to be treated the same.
(November 19, 2015 at 4:50 am)robvalue Wrote: Karma doesn't teach you right from wrong, it rewards or punishes certain behaviours. Whether those behaviours are actually "good" or "bad" is entirely up for debate. Morality isn't about getting rewards, it's about doing the right thing because it is the right thing. When asked to justify the rules of Karma, you use real world reasoning like everyone else. You don't just say "because Karma says so", so whether Karma says so or not is irrelevant.
We know what hurts us, so we know that if we do it to others, it hurts them. We know what makes us happy, so if we do it to others it generally makes them happy. It's not a lot more complex than that. We have evolved as cooperative, empathetic animals on the whole. That's just reality. You seem to need an extra layer of explanation on top of this, but it's superfluous.
You are suggesting what a theoretical atheist would be like, who doesn't know right from wrong, while ignoring the reality that most atheists are good moral people. We're here right now, we're not theoretical.
Good Sir, In any of my posts i haven't mentioned anything like " Because karma says so". no. I as a person have a consciousness. I have a free will to decide to do something. Thankfully for some reason i happen to do what is right. That "reason" for me would be karma (What i have done in the past). There are people who does what is "not" right. They too have a consciousness , they too should be able to have empathy. But they don't.
I will ask you a question , Do you consider slaughtering animals right or wrong?
"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path" - Gautama Buddha