(November 22, 2015 at 6:38 am)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: I agree with you aractus about the stigmatization of pedophiles. I was talking with my dad and my cousin at dinner at my uncle's birthday party about this issue. They were under the impression that Jared Fogle is mentally ill. I contested that people are attracted to all sorts of things, and children just happens to be what Fogle is attracted to.
Well that's because it is listed as a mental disorder in the DSM. But I've decided to publish a blog post I wrote a couple of months back - Is mental illness a sham? Enjoy.
(November 22, 2015 at 6:38 am)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: What they contested was that once someone starts touching kids then that's when it becomes a matter of mental illness. I guess if they lack empathy towards kids then that could seem like it's a reason to say they lack some sort of basic fundamental trait. We seemed to reach the conclusion that it becomes a "mental illness" once you actually lay a hand on a kid. I don't really know why we're calling it a mental illness though.
Well yes a person has the condition whether they act on it or not. I am operating under the belief that most people who are sexually attracted towards children exercise self-control, but I believe that's easier for some people (i.e. those who are also sexually attracted to adults) than it is for others who are only sexually attracted to kids.
(November 22, 2015 at 6:38 am)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: All that being said, I do think the Jarod Fogle issue is very fucked up. I don't necessarily think it's terrible that supposedly the minors he was having sex with were like what, 17? 16? I mean, that's a bit fucked up for a guy is age, but still that age range doesn't seem terrible for the kids involved. I think there's probably people of that age who are capable of consenting and knowing exactly what they're doing. I heard that he was involved in helping his friend in the filming of child pornography. I don't really know much about that issue so I can't really comment. Anyways I like to look at a situation from a lot of different angles, which are sometimes more taboo to look at. Doing anything with much younger kids is not right.
I didn't read the specifics of his case, but a psychiatrist that examined him said he had "mild paedophilia" and to have paedophilia he must be sexually attracted to precedent children (not simply 16 and 17 year olds).
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
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"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
