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The Extremis of Rationality
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RE: The Extremis of Rationality
(November 8, 2015 at 4:52 pm)Nestor Wrote: My contention is that time cannot be conceived as non-existent; its becoming - as in any concept of creation - precludes change, which is all I understand time to be. And consequently, the notion of eternal becoming - some intermediate state between non-existence and existence - is no less nonsensical, though admittedly that's more or less what the "present" is: an instant that ceases to exist (as it immediately dissolves into past time) at the very instant it arrives (from an actually non-existent but potentially existent future). 

Not sure if you're still following this, Nestor, but I missed this thread first time around. (Not yet sure who bumped it either as I work my through it.)

The other thing time cannot be conceived as is independent of a frame of reference or perspective. No frame of reference exists within a universe as generally understood since there seems to be no place for one to be as we move through big bang. But assuming a single universe devoid of any superstructure to account for its coming and going is neither necessary nor justified. If magic genies start to seem like useful features of a theory of everything, then it is well past time to consider how useful a multiverse can be.
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The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by vorlon13 - November 8, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Faith No More - November 8, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by jenny1972 - November 8, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by I_am_not_mafia - November 8, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Alex K - November 8, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Whateverist - December 6, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Chad32 - November 8, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by robvalue - November 8, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by robvalue - November 8, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 9, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Rhondazvous - November 8, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Thumpalumpacus - November 8, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by RoadRunner79 - November 9, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - November 27, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Mudhammam - November 30, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: The Extremis of Rationality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 29, 2015 at 1:01 pm

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