RE: Trump Calls For Moratorium on Muslim Immigrants
December 8, 2015 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2015 at 6:09 pm by Neo-Scholastic.
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(December 8, 2015 at 3:29 pm)abaris Wrote:(December 8, 2015 at 3:25 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You must be blind. An organized military is forcibly gaining territory and sujectong those within its borders to its will while controlling the resources within that geographic area. That's what war looks like.
As I said, Bushite idiocy. The results are accordingly.
So you really think, conventional tactics will solve that problem? And, what you failed to answer, where's the muslim nation? You know, such as Germany or Japan. Where's that? Are muslims a nation?
It is fair to say that in the late 1930's and early 40' Germany was a Nazi nation. Likewise it would be fair to say that Japan at that time was an Imperial Shinto nation. Iran, Malaysia, and Libya are all 'Muslim' countries. When Trump says he wants to ban all Muslims his comment lacks any nuance whatsoever. I disagree with him as strongly and for the same reason as I disagree with you. Islam is not a monolith.
You've completely ignored all the carefully drawn distinctions of my first post. It's like ignoring that being Jewish is both a religious identity and an ethnicity. I know many Roman Catholics that no longer believe the doctrines or the authority of the Church and yet still consider themselves Catholic. You need to be clear about whether you are talking about a set of religious beliefs and practices (which are generally benign), a repressive political ideology, or cultural identity. The fact is that in "Islam" it is particularly difficult to make such distinctions. Those distinctions matter and have policy implications. Preventing the migration into the USA of Muslims from politically unstable regions means that a significant number of members will hold beliefs hostile to the USA. Our policy would most likely be more lenient to Turkish Muslims than Syrian ones.
There is no 'right to immigrate'. Only citizens have civil rights. Foreign nationals are not citizens. Therefore, no group of foreign nationals can claim that their civil rights have been violated by a country to which they do not belong.
