RE: Political compass test
January 10, 2011 at 5:11 am
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2011 at 5:21 am by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
Ryft Wrote:You have got to be kidding me. Where the hell do you think the government gets its revenue? From the public through extensive taxation. Although there are countless fans of Big Government who seem to think otherwise, money actually does not grow on trees on Capitol Hill. Public funding comes from, uh, the public. Article 3 of the Constitution is pretty clear about where Congress appropriates revenue from. You are the one who invoked Congress (Msg. 49); the fact that your argument went to shit within one post cannot be hidden by suddenly patronizing me about how different governments have money in different ways and may be democratically elected or not, etc. You are simply flat out wrong.No. What you're not getting is that there are government's that don't use capitalism now, in the past, and in the future.
They can, have, and will still earn fucking money.
NASA and programs like it get money from the government.
NASA and programs like it can exist without a capitalist society because it does not get its money primarily from private enterprise. What connection are you not making here?
Ryft Wrote:First, people like me do not deride Europeans for being socialist. We deride the American government for trying to be. People like me don't really give a rats ass what Europe does to itself. Second, you are practically making my argument for me. You point proudly to the LHC which cost approximately nine billion dollars shouldered by a coalition of some twenty nations, in contrast to the technological achievements and scientific contributions of NASA (from the Apollo missions to space probes and telescopes) which have cost hundreds of billions of dollars shouldered mostly by the capitalist United States itself. So thanks for that.First of all, NASA's equipment is decades old and crumbling to the point to where we have to depend on these socialist nations for rides to the ISS station and NASA is still scaling back program after program because the government keeps cutting their paycheck because we're in a recession caused by the idiots on wall street.
Second of all, yes, I pointed to the LHC as one example of many recent scientific discoveries done by the Europeans, the Japanese, and other countries are having successes in this regard as well. Also: all of their education systems beat the pants off the successes of our education system, overall.
Yes, we have more money to thorw around for these projects, which are all wasted for nothing because of incompetance, greed, corruption, and inefficiency.
Your thanks is completely unwarrented.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan