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Loving and forgiving your enemies
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RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies
(December 12, 2015 at 8:21 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you think the woman in this video is dishonest, self centered, and self serving, then?

I don't know how honest she was - I tend not to care enough to try and guess people's real intentions and motivations. She could be crazy, for all I know. But most likely - she just dealt with her grief however she saw fit.
I'm not worried about her motivations, though - I'm more concerned about motivations and honesty of people who use her story to propagate ideological dogma.

You have the right to forgive - or not - people who wronged you. Pushing indiscriminate forgiveness as a way to deal with grief and injustice on others - especially using promises of eternal life, divine justice and such - that's the part I'm objecting to. Teaching children to forgive everyone may be convenient, because it gets them to shut up about their stupid little problems already, but in the long run - it often culminates in psychological pressure on victims of serious crimes to stop "making a fuss".

And I'm not even going to talk about the fact, that any f*cker, that does some evil sh*t to me, or my family gets to go to a wooden box, where he gets "absolution" for his act against me, by a random guy in a dress...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Iroscato - December 11, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by c172 - December 11, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by abaris - December 11, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Minimalist - December 11, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Divinity - December 11, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Alex K - December 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Cato - December 11, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 6:04 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Athene - December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Athene - December 11, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 11, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Athene - December 11, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 11, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by brewer - December 11, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Chad32 - December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 11, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 11, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by KevinM1 - December 12, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2015 at 5:48 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Grandizer - December 12, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 12, 2015 at 7:17 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 7:31 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 8:58 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Homeless Nutter - December 12, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by drfuzzy - December 12, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Whateverist - December 12, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:27 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Whateverist - December 12, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Whateverist - December 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:01 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Excited Penguin - December 12, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Thumpalumpacus - December 12, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by Catholic_Lady - December 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Loving and forgiving your enemies - by The Grand Nudger - December 12, 2015 at 3:51 pm

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